Breakup No No!
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Totally Married Podcast
Episode 109
E and A discuss how today’s texting and social media has created a disconnect that is STILL not okay when it comes to breaking up. Also, we share one of the best voicemails ever recorded before answering listener questions about communicating in marriage when feelings are off limits, how to navigate making a baby when your partner is having a hard time performing, and lastly, an interesting question on one of our greatest hits topics - pubic hair! Enjoy!
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To the guy who is talking about his wifes pubic hair. This is exactly what your question sounded like:
‘I’m a nice guy so she should shave for me. She shaved for everyone else so I deserve it.’
You’re not a jerk for preferring clean shaven, you’re a jerk for using her past against her.
Exactly! I couldn’t agree more.
Dude with the guy who wants his wife clean shaven…
My advice, since I would guess with two kids, your wife is tired and just does not have the time and energy, splurge on a day at a spa for her. You take the kids and let her have a little peace for the day, and let the spa do her hair, and nails and massage, and they can take care of that, too. She will feel wonderful, smell great, be all relaxed, and she will love you for the relaxing time (except for the part where they riipped the hair out of her crotch).
This is a great idea and he should definitely do it!
Another way to go that could be done more often is give her the time! I rarely shave because I don’t have the time when I’m showering and I only have 1 child.
When you can, give her a Saturday/Sunday morning to take an hour to pamper herself. Take care of the kids so she can take a nice long hot shower or long relaxing bath. Let her do her thing and don’t interupt or let the kids interupt. Tell her what you’re doing (and let her know in a nice, romantic way that you’d like her to shave in that time) and tell the kids that mommy’s room and bathroom are off limits.
I say just take over more parenting in general. Maybe with the extra time she can work shaving back into her routine and you can spend more time with your kids (and thus, maybe distract yourself from focusing too much on this issue).
This is in regards to not answering a text as a way of breaking up… While I have not experienced that in a boyfriend/girlfriend breakup scenario, I have however experienced it with a friend (ex-friend). My husband and I became friends with a couple and we all hit it off right away. We would hang out and get together for holidays, until about 6 months later when my girl friend of the couple stopped texting me back and unfriended me on facebook. I was a little hurt by it. I had been there for her during a really rough time in her marriage and I had invested a lot into this friendship, so when she stopped texting me back and unfriended me I didn’t know what to think. We lived a couple of blocks away from each other so we saw each other every now and then, but it was really awkward. I honestly do not know why people think that this is an appropriate way to essentially tell (or not tell) someone that you don’t want to be friends anymore. It just shows how much class they do not have. Anyways, love you both.. Congrats on baby!
Where can I listen to the voicemail of the guy who was late to work??
I searched “guy calls in to work” on YouTube and found it. I laughed so hard sitting at my desk listening to this!
Hi there!
Long time listener, first time poster.
Just wanted to comment about the question from the Lady who was concerned and asking for advise with her husband’s listening skills. Perhaps it was the way Elizabeth was reading the question (she WAS just coming off of that disgusting blue grilled cheese fiasco story - yuck… who would like that??), but to me, I couldn’t help feel like part of the blame for the issue of poor communication lays squarely on the lady’s shoulders.
Some of the wording and tone I picked up in her question (ie: “… we have a very big issue with him forgetting”), made me have a gut reaction that the lady writing in is a nag. It all came across more like she was a frustrated mother to a child, than someone’s equal partner.
I couldn’t shake that idea throughout the rest of the question and answer (and with that point of view in mind), and I have to say I feel for the guy if my perception is correct. Seems like this is something she is always going on and on and on about, and maybe all he wants is a break. So yeah, he zones out and decided to catch a few minutes of shut eye, during what I’m sure wasn’t the first time he had to sit through her “drawn out explanation of her feelings”. And perhaps having to listen to her constantly go on and on about how horrible of a listener he is just worsens the situation? I know I wouldn’t be keen to be an active participant in a repetitively occurring convo about my poor listening skills.
Again, just the vibe I got from the question and the wording, and felt like someone needed to be supportive in his corner. We don’t know his side of things, but the question definitely came across to me as naggy (not a word, I know), and felt very parental. Not cool if she’s expecting a mature adult conversation about emotions and self betterment.
Keep up the great work guys! Awesome podcast!
rather than shave the vag using an Epilady is better and is supremely useful and pulls the hair at root rather than shaving which isn’t very comfy growing back.
For the woman having trouble communicating with her husband, I wanted to recommend looking into Non-Violent Communication (resource: http://www.ayahuasca-wasi.com/english/articles/NVC.pdf). The NVC framework is to communicate by making an observation + feeling + need + request. I was thinking that perhaps the husband would find it easier to identify that his wife was communicating important information if her needs and a request were made more explicit.
I cannot even imagine shaving down there! Yikes! And being the mother of 3 now, there are a lot of things that don’t get shaved as often as they should. That’s why I got laser hair removal.
Two thoughts on the The Husband Who Can’t Do Feelings:
1) My husband (together 10 yrs) has made very similar statements during arguments in the past. In the heat of the argument, I’m sure I was pissed and let him know, but upon reflection I can definitely see my own husband’s case. He is very laid back, very even-keeled - rarely gets angry, upset, etc. I am the opposite: very sensitive, want to talk about my every feeling, prone to nitpicking little things in our relationship. I think that sometimes, constantly discussing my feelings and issues can be exhausting, and maybe not be seen as productive in the eyes of my more pragmatic husband. I got the feeling this writer-in-er and I were in the same boat.
I think it’s important your partner respects your feelings, but this might not be as easy as you think. My advice: think more carefully about how and what you throw at your partner, maybe there’s a better way to communicate your feelings than you have been doing.
2) The phrasing - “How am I supposed to remember your feelings” - screams of Aspergers. Could be way off base, but I know it goes under-diagnosed…
I also wondered about Aspergers — in fact, it sounded to me like something Max from Parenthood might say. I have an acquaintance who discovered after about 20 years of marriage that her husband was on the spectrum, and it really explained a lot of his behaviour, especially his inability to understand where she was coming from. Something to rule out, at least.
To the would-be baby-makers with boner problems,
This may be a long shot, but I have taken homeopathic herbs for hormonal/sexual dysfunction issues with success. The shop in CA where I have gotten these supplements has an online shop, and although the site itself is a little over-zealous with the glowing testimonials, I can vouch for it’s legitimacy. They have herbs for both female and male issues. My suggestion is this: Go ahead and purchase both girl and guy potion, and then offer it up as something you could BOTH take together to encourage fertility and libido. That way it’s not like it’s a problem that he has alone that needs fixing or “treating”.
Here is a link to the female options: https://www.herbdoc.com/index.php/Female
and here are the male options, which claim to help with libido, erections, and sperm production: https://www.herbdoc.com/index.php/Male
Obviously I haven’t tried the male formulas but it’s just herbs so if anything it sure can’t hurt! Hope this might help. Good luck!
P.s. I do not work for this company, just a consumer!
Okay, you guys were way to much psychoanalyzing the guy who wanted his wife to shave. I don’t think he actually had her past and the shaving mixed up. I think he was just at wits end as to why she wasn’t shaving, with her saying she prefers it.
Instead of getting so worked up the easy answer is to make it a sexy thing. He could just tell her that it would be super sexy if he could shave her himself one time. They could easily take a shower together and he could shave her and add no more than 2 minutes to the shower. He just has to make it fun. Right now for her it seems like a chore, but if he makes it fun and sexy it will be a bonding, fun, erotic thing they do together.
I laughed so hard I cried, at work, listening to the voicemail. I love this podcast keep it up!
Hi everyone,
I am the girl who wrote in to talk about my husband and our problem with performance. To clarify from the podcast, I have been charting my ovulation and my husband is totally ready to start a family, thus him wanting to know when I will be ovulating. I do think that this performance stuff is all in his head and causing a lot of stress. He is a perfectionist in every sense of the word, and I think that trying to “hit the target” during certain times of the month is causing both of us undue stress and psyching him out especially. I have also been thinking about just shelving the concept of “baby making” and just going back to having fun and trying not to stress. I have been thinking about trying accupuncture as a way to de-stress and improve fertility. My husband and I both have very stressful jobs so I definitely think that plays a big role. I have tried not to have too many conversations with him about it because I definitely don’t want to hurt his feelings or make him feel emasculated. If it
continues to be a problem after we shelve things for a bit, we will probably seek medical help or counseling. Thanks so much for all of your advice!!