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Totally Married Podcast

Episode 111

Elizabeth discusses her recent, sudden bout of pregnancy body image issues before she and Andy answer listener questions about texting etiquette, crazy sister-in-law problems, long distance relationships, and having overnight guests when space is limited! Enjoy!

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abby says:

The the writer with the boyfriend’s sister who suddenly started to hate her - yikes! This is a huge warning sign about being part of this family. Seriously, if your boyfriend is on his sister’s team and blaming you for this, that is not someone you want to spend your life with. Someone who will side with his family against you in an unfair situation like this is not good partner material. (Basically, what Elizabeth said.)

Christina says:

Agreed this seems like a warning about this family. The sister sounds like the kind of person who is used to get her way and used to having her family back her up regardless. I think the sister might be jealous of the writer-iner because she’s getting closer to being a part of the family and she doesn’t like it. Is she the only daughter? Maybe she doesn’t want to compete with a daughter-in-law someday and she’s driving her away on purpose.

Allison says:

I agree! If he is not willing to stand up for you, or even attempt to find a solution to the problem, I don’t see how this relationship can go well in the future. Also, I thought it was really weird that the sister is going to move into the new house with them? I get the feeling there is some co-dependency issues in this family.

Alex says:

There’s more to this story than we’re hearing . Why is the sister moving into a “make-shift apartment” in the basement of the writer-inner’s new house? That’s an unusual thing to do, and seems less-than-ideal for the sister, but we don’t know why it’s happening. Is the sister moving into the basement because she has nowhere else to go, or because she really wants to?

Megan says:

To me it sounds like the family could be annoyed with the sister’s actions but at the same time just not wanting to deal with it or confront her. Or at least that has been my experience with family members. The one the screams the loudest is usually accommodated.

7 years is a long time to be with someone but the writer-inner has two options I believe.

- One is to leave your boyfriend. When/if you marry him, you gain his family too. Are they people you want to be around?
-Two is to tell your boyfriend one final time that he needs sees that you have tried and either be part of the solution or he is part of the problem. If he is part of the problem then you leave.

The sister is obviously toxic. If she has hated everyone prior then there is a chance she will never like you again and probably will never have a reason for not liking you. Do you want to be the victim the rest of this relationship standing alone against his whole family? That is where you will be if your boyfriend doesn’t become your ally.

Masha says:

Regarding the woman who isn’t sure if she wants to start a long distance relationship while living in another country than her boyfriend: I completely understand your reservations and I had them myself, before my (now) husband and I became long distance. Within a month of meeting each other, we had to decide whether to continue seeing each other long distance, because we met at the end of the summer and I had to go back to college 800 miles away, and I had 2 years till graduation. We were both skeptical about long distance relationships, but when it came down to it, we knew there was no way we could stop seeing each other-our relationship (even just one month in) was too amazing. Fast forward to two and half years later, and our hard work paid off, and we now live in the same city and are married.

If you feel ambivalent about continuing to see your boyfriend long distance, then maybe it’s not the right decision for you. For us, there was just no way we could stop seeing each other, and we quickly realized that being long distance with each other was far superior to being in person with anyone else. If you do decide to try, some things to consider are: When will you be able to be in the same city, either on vacations or for good (like Elizabeth said)? It’s so important to be able to look forward to your times together. Will you be able to find times when you can talk despite a potential time difference? Do you want to be monogamous, and if so, what behavior is appropriate with other people and what isn’t (e.g. is it okay if you hang out one-on-one with someone of the gender you would date if you were single), and how will you two work through it if you do something that you know your partner wouldn’t be okay with? Skype is a godsend to long-distance relationships, because nothing compares to being able to see your significant other’s face in real time! Conversations can be tricky because you are missing out on the physical aspects like the way even a simple conversation can be made so much more special when you’re holding hands or cuddling, but you sometimes have to power through it. My husband and I had to work out what worked to keep our relationship strong, which for us meant Skyping every night for about 30 minutes (I couldn’t do much more because of a very hectic study schedule), usually just telling each other about our days and seeing where the conversation went from there. Luckily I was able to visit for all of the school breaks, including one glorious 4 month summer break where we were able to live together just like a normal couple, and these breaks kept us going strong.

Being long distance doesn’t compare to being in person, but sometimes it is so worth it! Especially if you’re enjoying being in the other person’s life even when you’re physically apart, rather than only living for the times when you’re together. Good luck on deciding, and I hope this helped a little.

Ann M. says:

Hi Elizabeth!

As a woman who has carried twins, I can relate to feeling weird about how my body was changing during my pregnancy. I looked pregnant almost immediately, and had trouble finding even maternity clothes that would fit me towards the end. People seem to think it’s fair game to comment on a woman’s pregnant body, and come up with all kinds of rude comments about how you look. You only have a small amount of control over how your body will respond to being pregnant, so you have to surrender yourself to the process and keep your eyes on the prize of a healthy baby. This is not the time to be critical about how much weight you are putting on. You are supposed to put on weight!

Also, there is no truth to the idea that you can tell if you are having a boy or girl by the way you are carrying. It depends on your body type and the way the baby is situated inside of you. (And how many pregnancies you’ve already had.)

P.S. I think you look fabulous!

tyson says:

Andy is right, texting from the brain is on the way. Since everything on the internet is true! google: flying helicopter with brain, tons of research on reading the electrical signals in the brain with helmets, no implants. here is just one I found:
http://discover.umn.edu/news/science-technology/brain-computer-interface-allows-mind-control-robots
Andy is psychic. They have also done quite a bit with implants in the brain, pretty rad stuff happening!

congrats on the girl, our baby girl turns(turned, turn?) one today, best year of my life!

O-Shen Christ says:

You are spot on Andy! This will come true and much more you can’t even imagine yet! Every technology mimicks what the mind can do. Teleportation and time travel will also happen and aliens already do this. Enjoy the dark ages on psyco planet!

Lisa says:

@Elizabeth When I saw your Instagram pic I thought you looked really good and not like one of those women who completely let themselves go when they’re pregnant. So don’t worry about it, but I can see that it must be a hard time if your body is totally changing. Also, you definitely popped! Didn’t you see like a month ago you don’t show yet? So happy for you, and girls rock! :)

To the girl considering going long distance. I’ve been in a relationship with the best man in the world for almost 7 years now and going strong. When we first started dating, he still went to college while I was working in another city. The second year we actually moved in together. Then he decided to move out of town again for a new job. A year ago, I decided to move to San Francisco to pursue my dreams (I’m from Europe). Now we see each other every two months.

It sucks and honestly, I feel like I’m slightly depressed most of the time because I cannot share my awesome experiences with him. But a reunion is on the horizon, We’re getting married next August. I’ll continue working on my career in San Francisco until then. That being said, I was very hesitant in the first year and there were numerous times when I wanted to break it up. But we just stuck through it. It’s true what they say, distance makes the heart grow fonder!

Long story short: you do need to have a long term plan if you want to make it work. You need a goal to work towards. In our case, that’s getting married and buying or building a house. If you don’t know where this relationship is going, it’s hard to maintain it long distance.

Christina says:

Elizabeth! I saw your Instagram, and you look so cute!!! You have that adorable pregnant figure where you look tiny everywhere else except for your sweet little baby bump. Don’t let anyone get you down!

Seth says:

Not to sharp-shoot Elizabeth but I feel that Andy was correct when he was describing electrons in the brain. There is certainly electrical activity in the brain. Electrical malfunctions can cause a lot of disorders like seizures. Even just the normal communication of axon to axon is by way of chemical receptors. Chemical compounds are made up of atoms and atoms contain protons, neutrons and electrons. So I’m like 75% on board with Andy saying that electrons shooting around in our brains will control the device interfaces of the future. (He did make it sound like a stream of electrons firing all over the place in your brain, but I do feel that he’s TECHNICALLY correct.)

Allison says:

That lady you encountered at the maternity store should NOT be employed there! Wow…being 19 weeks pregnant in my 4th pregnancy, I have come to expect all the thoughtless comments, but I don’t think I would expect it at a maternity store. Honestly though, if anyone else reaches out to touch my stomach, I am going to touch theirs back!

Emily says:

That sales woman needs to take a freaking hike. I could not believe that someone who is probably working on commission would make comments like that! I even said “OH HELL NO” out loud in the car when I was listening. Every pregnant woman deserves to be doted on and treated like the goddess that they are! Elizabeth, you are adorable and rockin’ the bump. Fuck the haters, you’re growing a person inside of you AND you look awesome doing it.

In response to the lame sister of the boyfriend. This girl obviously has issues (the sister). My sister in law has been the same with both me and then my brother in law’s new wife. She loved me at first then got very cold, but suddenly warmed up again when the new sister in law came around. She was constantly talking shit on her even though I told her flat out how much I adored my brother in laws then girlfriend. She even tried to get my in laws to try to sabotage the wedding… she cray. I love her but I definitely distance myself from her, and my husband does the same. My advice is what Elizabeth said. Partners are just that, partners. You need to be on each other’s sides. Have some real talk with your partner, tell him how important he is to you and how important his support is. Maybe you could even write a letter to him just to get it all out there. This sister is obviously hurting and has some control issues. she sounds like she needs a lot of attention. It sounds like you are in this for the long haul, so maybe making the best of the situation is what needs to happen. I think maybe treating her with a lot of empathy might work. Maybe say something like “It sounds like you were hurt by something that I may have done, and I am sorry that you felt that way. You are important to me and I consider you a part of my family, so I would love to try and rebuild the relationship.” That isn’t taking blame but acknowledging that she is hurting and validating that it came from you doing something she felt was not kind (even if it was completely unreasonable). If she doesn’t respond positively to that then you did all you could do. You are only responsible for how you react, not how she does. And as long as your boyfriend knows that you’ve reached out to her, he cant really hold you to any higher expectations. I’m a semi-qualified advice giver, almost done with my Masters in Social Work to be a Licensed Clinical Social Worker (therapist!). :)

A says:

Thanks for the advise on what to say to her! I think I’ll try that. I’ve seen her a couple times since the original blow up and have tried small talk but she just shuts me out after a few exchanges.

A says:

Hey guys! I’m the writer-iner with the crazy sister in law. Thanks for taking my question!
First off I wanted to let Andy know that everyone asks where the ring is after 7 years. He has been anti-marrige up to this point due to….family issues (does that suprise anyone…lol). His parents had a super nasty divorce that has scared him pretty bad, but now that we’ve settled into our new house it’s a conversation that we’ve started to have.
Speaking of conversations since I wrote to you about this we have talked about this whole issue. He is 100% on my side and does have my back. He said that he was hoping if he took a backseat in this situation when it all first blew up that the sister and I would work things out. He has since told me that he is pissed at her for doing this and that he hates that there is this divide in the family now. He has yet to actually talk to the sister about it. I think he’s just scared that hes going to push her way (good ridence if you ask me), but he does know that it’s a converstation that needs to happen.
Reguarding the family, a couple of them have brought it up to me and let me know that they hold no hard feelings towards me, they understand how she can be because most of them have dealt with similar issues with her in the past. The only person who is holding this whole thing against me is the Dad. The sister is the only girl in a family of 3 brothers. She is used to getting her way no matter what so since her brother (the boyfriend) didn’t automatically jump to her side shes been in her dad’s ear about me and he now feels that I’m taking advantage of my boyfriend financially. I’ve been told by other family members that the dad plans on talking to my boyfriend to “warn” him about me. But…I’ve already talked to the boyfriend and he’s got my back on this too. (and to be honest…he doesn’t even make enough money for me to take advantage of).
Just recently I started to wonder about the co-dependance issues too. Because we were so close it didn’t bother me that she lived with us for so long and I was excited to have her in the new house with us but now I”m starting to realize that at her age she shouldn’t still be living in her brothers basement. Plus it seems like shes trying really hard to break us up which is really disturbing to me. I’m honestly starting to wonder if she doesn’t have some issues mentally. Since this orignally blew up she has isolated herself from everyone. She broke up with her boyfrined for no reason, pushed away the only couple other friends she had. The only people she does talk to anymore is her dad and mom. This family is anti-theripist. They grew up in a small mid-western town where you deal with your problems on your own. I’ve broguth it up to my boyfriend and again he says “She’s got some stuff going on, she just needs time”. I would like to say I don’t care but if she is sturgling with something mentaly I would feel bad if something happened to her but it’s not worth me putting my neck out for her to have her slap me back down.
And for Andy the “underlying issues” that she was blamming me for when she originally said she didn’t want to live with us, we still have no idea what that was. After 2 months no one in the family knows what her REAL problem is with me.

Thanks again guys!!
(and P.S. Congrats on the girl!!)

A says:

I really need to work on my shorthand. I didn’t realize how long this was until i posted it…lol. Sorry guys!

Alex says:

Hi, A. Sure seems to me like she has serious codependency issues. I’m curious about how the decision to have her live in the new house with you came about. Did you invite her, did she ask, or was it assumed all along that she’d be moving with you?

A says:

She originally moved in with us 3 years ago to get out of her moms house. I was under the assumption that it was going to be temporary but it was never actually discussed. When we bought the house, again it wasn’t really discussed and it was just assumed that she move with us. I never really had a problem with her living with us. It helped with the bills and she worked opposite shift than my boyfriend and I so we never really saw her. But I had brought it up a couple times, that eventually we would have to be on our own and do our own thing. We just turned 26 and 27 I felt that at this point we shouldn’t have roomates. But that topic was always pretty touchy too. The whole family is very protective of her, being the only girl. But we have talked about it and we are trying to find a balance in the new family dinamic. It’s deffinatly taking some adjusting but I think as long as he continues to stay on my side we’ll make it through.

Michelle says:

Elizbeth, you look fantastic! I was so sorry to hear you’re having body image issues. I imagine it’s a very common thing for pregnant women, especially first time moms. This is easier said then done, but keep in mind you’re creating human life and compared to that a few extra pounds don’t matter!

Emily says:

Hi Elizabeth! Somewhat crazy serendipitous timing, but Professor Blastoff this week was all about midwives (their guest is Registered Nurse and Certified Nurse Midwife) , giving birth, and being pregnant. They even comment on the ‘wives-tale’ of ‘birth-hips’!

It’s a really fun episode! I know you guys mentioned that you’ve already gotten some flack from people about choosing to use a mid-wife (I think you also mentioned a home birth maybe?) and this gives some perspectives on the issue (all the while being hilarious) that you could encourage them to listen to :)

I think you’ll like it, check it out!

http://www.earwolf.com/episode/midwives/

Jena says:

Elizabeth! You are looking just gorgeous. I had such a hard time with body image issues during my pregnancy that it’s stopping me from wanting another baby. I felt so helpless to the swift and cruel changes my body was making. Since I teach fitness, my expectation was that I’d remain fit and just have a perfect little basketball belly. I had no idea my hips would change so much and that I’d get a silly muffin top. All I wished for was a spanx unitard. I hate how that salesperson spoke to you and wonder why she thinks that’s ok. It’s really hard to have your body morph so quickly while also feeling sick, and freaked out and EXCITED and blessed and amazing and ALL OF THE THINGS and hormones don’t help with all of those emotions. But, as with all things, it’s temporary. In four months you’ll have a sweet little nugget. And your body will slowly return to you. And also no one really talks about how hard it is to get so big, how everyone thinks its ok to comment on it, and how pregnant women are supposed to just be graceful about it and take it. But we’re human beings GROWING HUMAN BEINGS and that is intense shit.
Seriously tho. I saw your Instagram pic and thought you looked stunning. Sorry you had/have so much nausea, and am so relieved that you are feeling somewhat better. I think I speak for everyone when I say your venting and elation are equally welcome and we love being on this amazing journey with you and Andy!

xoxo

Frances says:

I haven’t even finished listening to the whole episode, but I have to pause it to comment. There are a lot of theories about how you can tell if a woman is carrying a boy or a girl and guess what? Each theory is right 50% of the time!

I have 2 kids and here is my experience: with my first pregnancy I got very wide and didn’t look pregnant, just fat. In fact I started a new job at 4 months and when I told my coworkers at 7 months, they were surprised! (And I had gained about 30 lbs.!) Many maternity clothes didn’t fit right, especially overalls. I ended up going to the men’s dept. and buying “short fat man” overalls. And yes, that first baby turned out to be a girl.
2nd pregnancy totally different, definitely looked “pregnant” with the bump mostly all in front. Guess what? 2nd baby was also a girl. So you really can’t tell.

My advice is to stop thinking of your looks in ordinary terms and start thinking in pregnancy terms, which means the bigger the better. You’re not supposed to look skinny. Also, I recommend leaning your shoulders back and sticking your belly out, preferably with one hand on your back, to really emphasize that pregnant look. :)

Take good care, and demand as much special treatment as you can. You deserve it!

Cheryl says:

Brace yourself Elizabeth!

As some of the other moms here have said and can attest, people think it’s open season on pregnant women, even those who should know better, e.g. women who have been pregnant and/or those who work in maternity stores. I heard some of the rudest comments ever, from things like “how many you got in there?” to “wow, you’re big,” and other such stupid things that come from people with no edit buttons, no boundaries, and apparently no commonsense. But I say, brace yourself because the worst is yet to come from stupid people. You may find people willing to share their most horrifying pregnancy stories, not of birth, but of death. Babies being born sick, mothers having to have hysterectomies, all sorts of Christmas stories that will have you wondering “what the hell is your purpose in telling me that?” But you know, you don’t have to take it. You are strong, beautiful and about to embark on the best journey of your life. Feel free to call people out when they say stupid and insensitive things. If they really tick you off, give it back to them (blame hormones later :-)) but don’t feel bad about yourself. There may come a time when you won’t remember when you weren’t pregnant (around month 8 I said to my husband, was I always pregnant) and this too will pass. And you can’t tell what you’re carrying, if you’re getting wider, it’s just the way your body is adjusting. I didn’t even look pregnant from the back and I have a daughter (I kept being told it was a boy). Let Mother Nature do her work and be proud of every change, nuance and pound. And be well.

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