No Mustaches Allowed!
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Totally Mommy Podcast
Episode 16
Elizabeth and Andy discuss technology as well as their Good, Bad, Funnies (Getting out!, Eating Issues! Public Sink Baths!) Before answering listener questions about posting your kids photos on social media, how to raise a feminist boy, and how to deal with hearing horrible stories of abuse when you are a new mom, as well as how to deal with your own instincts to protect (or overprotect) your child! (Hint: Baby Oprah will stay in her wrap/baby carrier until she is 18!) Enjoy!
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Love the podcast!! I’m just getting into podcasts because they make me feel less alone as a stay-at-home-momma! So thanks for the company!
I just wanted to drop a comment on the issue of posting pictures of your kids on social media. I feel very strongly about not posting pics of my baby, only because of my husband’s family. His parents are divorced and his dad is totally out of the picture, for example he wasn’t invited to our wedding. However he is on facebook and then uses information against my mother-in-law for money issues, etc.
However, what has worked really well for us is the photo stream on the iphone. Only people who I invite can see pics as I post them. It makes me feel much better about keeping family updated as my 9 month starts walking (tears! Can’t believe how fast he’s growing up!).
So that’s why we don’t post pics/info, but that’s just our situation. If it were different, his adorable face would probably be everywhere!
My breastfeeding uniform was always a cami with a pretty shirt over top. Cami pulls down, shirt goes up.
Agreed!! It’s the best. Sometimes I don’t even have to cover with one of those cover-ups because almost nothing is showing. Plus, my 5month old hates to be covered and likes to watch what’s going on around us… I just find a private corner. 🙂
You should check out episode 37 of One Bad Mother called Parenting Online. They talk a lot about posting pictures/stories about your kids, including people who post NOTHING. It was very interesting.
You guys are doing great, awesome work!
My husband and I do not allow our kids to be watched by any man alone except him. I can certainly understand why people think this is overprotective and/or will cause our children to distrust men. However, I respectfully disagree. Our children spend time with their grandparents, uncles, family friends, etc. All of this is done in our presence or in the presence of another person (i.e. grandma AND grandpa time). We first learned that people have this rule in a child abuse prevention class. The teacher of the class has spent many years working with child molesters in prison. She knows what she’s talking about, and she and her husband have this rule for their own children. The fact is, most child molesters are male.
There are many things out of my control as a parent: my kids skinning their knees, getting teased at school, getting in a car accident, getting an illness, and so forth. I *want* my kids to get hurt and pick themselves back up, learn how to recover when someone teases them, make life mistakes and learn from them, etc. But if there is a feasible way for me to protect my kids from getting molested, I’m going to do my all to protect them from that particular evil.
It’s a personal choice, and yes I’ve gotten weird responses from people, but in the long run I think looking like the crazy overprotective mom is a small price to pay.
To the new mom worried about her son growing up being able to express his feelings in a healthy way and learning to respect women-I think you’re ahead of the game if you’re already thinking about it. You and your husband will lead by example.
As far as boy/girl toys go, I think I saw something on social media that said the test of whether a toy is a girl or boy toy is if you operate it with your genitals. If not, then it’s a toy for girls or boys. If so, it is not a toy for children.
Once someone told my son not to play with a toy shopping cart because it’s a girl’s toy. That is so ridiculous because men go to the grocery store too. Men also hold their babies and take care of them, so I have never understood why in the world anyone would discourage boys from playing with dolls.
To Elizabeth-I concur with the other poster. I always wore tanks with a sports bra or nursing bra, then maybe a button up shirt or cardigan over. Just pulled one side of the tank down-not the strap part, just the material covering the breast. I also always used a “hooter hider” or some similar product.
I love the show, and like hearing Andy as guest host too-especially since you are both at the beginning of the parenthood adventure. So fun!
Here’s a link to the graphic for boy/girl toys. My wording isn’t the best:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/02/how-to-tell-if-a-toy-is-for-boys-or-girls_n_4372629.html
I’m obsessed with the Blanqi Post Partum Nursing Cami. I highly recommend; not only do they cover your midsection while you lift your top up to nurse, they’re also supporting to help tuck in the extra around the middle.
http://www.target.com/p/bumped-by-blanqi-post-partum-nursing-cami-assorted-colors/-/A-14523025#prodSlot=medium_1_2&term=blanqui
I just want to say I love Andy on this podcast!! He had his doubts that listeners still like him on the show but I do! I always look forward to the awesome chemistry you two have and was actually sad for a while when he was on the first episode and then never again until Oprah was born. So thanks Andy for supporting your wonderful wife and entertaining us all with your funny and honest perspective! It’s also refreshing and nice to hear a guy talk with so much love about his child…very much looking forward to that someday with my husband! Keep it up guys-love it!!! 🙂
Andy is the coolest
Ok, <3 you two but really had to sit down, pause podcast and talk about this thing Andy said. The idea that "boys will be boys" and are just going to talk dirty about girls in 9th grade is EXACTLY what that mom was trying to say. Look, I don't have an answer here but I am surprised that you two didn't see how this negates the idea of raising the bar for our young men. By talking "dirty" boys are perpetuating women as objects, normalizing it and then just moving on. As if this type of "male" behavior is acceptable and should be encouraged. Sure men and women are different but this is the exact conversation we should be having about how to change this behavior. Why does THAT have to be how "boys are boys"?!!
Sorry to be a downer and I probably didn't write this exactly right and I know Andy said he didn't really make his point… anyway…(((HUGS)))
Elizabeth- have you heard of Stitch Fix? It’s kind of like birchbox but they send you clothing and accessories and you keep what you like and send back what you don’t. I have friends who do it an love it! Might be a way to update the wardrobe that is fun rather than painful.
https://www.stitchfix.com/faq
There may be people who love Stitch Fix but I’ve tried it twice, the first box was ok but the second…literally the stylist disregarded everything I said I wanted or didn’t and there wasn’t anything in the box I would ever wear. I can definitely do a better job picking out my own clothes. Not to bash your suggestion Sarah, as like I said, some people might love it, I just didn’t. 🙁
Hey guys! I am a newish listener to the podcast(s) and had wondered recently if there’s an archived Totally Married where you tell the story of how you met. Then today when listening to the Totally Mommy podcast, Elizabeth mentioned knowing Andy in grade school? So! Now I definitely want to know the “how we met story”! Have you shared it before (if so, episode number please!) and if not, doooooo eeeeeeet. Love your show!
Dunno if there’s one particular episode of Totally Married where they tell the story, but you pick it up in drips and drabs. I know they’ve told the proposal story, which is cute.
Also you might want to check out Elizabeth’s appearance on the This Feels Terrible podcast.
I don’t know which episodes it’s in (they’ve told it in several) but I can give you the short version!
They both grew up in St. Louis and went to grade school and middle school (I believe) together and Elizabeth had a crush on Andy! Then Andy moved away in 7th grade and they never saw each other again until one night (I think Elizabeth was 24 at this point) on the street in New York City Andy recognized her and got her attention and they have been pretty much dating ever since.. the cutest!
Wow! What a great podcast! This episode brought up a lot of important topics! In reference to priests who molest children, these men are pedophiles not homosexual. Homosexual men are attracted to other men, not children.
Thanks for the great podcast!
ahhh shit! I’m so busted! I definitely know better 🙂 I don’t know why I said that, my thinking was probably that there are a lot of priests who are homosexual which is why they go into the priesthood, because their orientation is not approved of in regular life, so they might as well be a priest. And then there are the priests who are pedophiles which is a totally different ball game. Ahh! Totally different. I know this. I’m an idiot.
Yeah at first I was thinking “Elizabeth!! What?! That’s not like you at all!” but then it was really clear to me from the context that you were simply saying that many of these priests feel like they have to oppress their feelings/true selves in general.
Plenty of “nursing” tops at motherhood (very giving elastic in the neckline) and nursing camis at Target.
Dairy can be a no no, but other “gassy” foods can’t really be “passed” through the breast milk. I went off dairy, but didn’t work for me. It was really her body just maturing and getting use to how it should be working. I tried to not lay her flat for 20 minutes after feeding, but I was falling asleep during or right after the feedings. I would just elevate her sleeping situation to help with any reflux or spitting up. Sleep for the baby gets much better from 6-12ish weeks, but changes at 4 months when they are more neurologically active.
I wish I would’ve known you needed a hearing test, I am in that field and could’ve setup a home visit. Any future hearing needs just put it out there on the podcast and I can email y’all info. Parental ear issues too 🙂
As far as Baby Oprah being very fussy, I just wanted to mention that my sister-in-law had similar issues with her daughter, and her doctor concluded that the baby was sensitive to both dairy and soy. My sister-in-law had to avoid eating them both (which is VERY hard to do-and she’s not a vegetarian!), but it did the trick. I think you should mention the situation to your pediatrician if it doesn’t get better, and maybe she/he can help you figure out if it’s something you are eating. Good luck!
I’m not a mom yet, but I just pinned a tutorial for homemade nursing tanks. Which I now realize is an awful suggestion because I’m sure the last thing you have time do right now is make nursing tank tops. My bad! Maybe Target’s version would be better…
Love the podcast, I look forward to MWF mornings when I can listen to you guys on my drive in 🙂
I feel like it is so important to have some clothes that make you feel good about yourself and even more important as a new mom. When my baby and I go out, which is rare, I either wear a nursing cami under a shirt or a tank I can pull down with a cardigan.
Also, for your problem getting healthy meals made, have you tried using a crockpot? There are so many healthy meals you can make using a crockpot and it’s easy to make a big batch of something that will last for several days.
GOOD: My 9 week-old started smiling at us last week. It is the BEST feeling in the world.
BAD: Body issues. The fact that I’m having a hard time accepting my post partum body is bumming me out. But I’m getting really tired of wearing maternity pants.
FUNNY: Last weekend my husband was changing a blow-out diaper and during this, the little guy started peeing on his own face (boys are fun). Instead of covering his penis like I normally do, the husband redirects the stream towards the floor at the exact same moment I ran up to help out. The stream was redirected all over my dress. Since it was the only dress that was fitting (stupid body issues), I just wiped it off and we went to church for Easter Sunday. I’m getting used to sporting bodily fluids on my clothes these days.
BAD from the past: A year ago the pastor at my son’s preschool was busted for child pornography. For real. And it wasn’t just slightly underage girls, but images of young children rape scenarios apparently. Microsoft ended up catching it through routine image scans on their cloud, where he had been saving the images. They alerted the police to conduct an investigation and the IP address lead them to the church preschool. He had been downloading them on his laptop in his office. The pastor was my age (35) and had a family and daughter who was in the second grade at the school. It was a tough situation…what to tell the younger children, etc. I never thought I’d have to sit my son down and ask him the questions I did, but fortunately, he was never alone in the room with him. And to the best of my knowledge, none of the children at the school were b/c of guidelines prohibiting it. Make a very long story short: the pastor was sentenced to a year in prison (a slap on the wrist if you ask me). The truth is it’s more common than you realize, it’s just the priests and teachers that make the news.
Cassie! I love these! Well not the pedophile one, that’s horrifying… these are some great good bad funnies, thanks for sharing!
That is the sweetest good! I read that last so I wasn’t too bummed out from you bad. (Very sad.) Love this idea, Elizabeth!
My husband and I both post a lot of photos of our 6 month old baby on facebook. I guess we just post a lot of photos in general and kind of view it as our online photo album. I don’t mind other people who post lots of photos online and actually really enjoy seeing what my friends/family are up to.
Love all of your podcasts!
Suggestions for healthy food options!:
1. Avocados, just add salt and pepper
2. Frittata for the week made with ghee which has very little casein, the protein that most baby’s react to in dairy; use veggies like chard that are less problematic
3. Huge salad for the week: get one of those big cartons of organic greens and put the veggies you can eat raw on top with seeds etc. Scoop it up when you’re hungry and add olive oil and balsamic for dressing
4. Rice, beans, and quinoa: make enough for the week; make salads with them
5. Hard boiled eggs
6. Nuts and fruit
7. Soup! Try lentil or pea or whatever suits your fancy, look into crock potting (impossible to mess it up, fast, delicious, and EASY)
8. Sweet potatoes: roast a bunch in oven ahead of time then microwave and add ghee or coconut oil and salt n’ pepper
Andy:
1. Buy pre-made grass-fed hamburger patties at Whole Foods, buns and condiments on hand
2. Sausages, most delicious easy meal ever! Get your mustard on
Also want to mention that getting enough DHA essential fatty acids is imperative for Elizabeth and Baby Oprah’s brain health. This can be a challenge on a veggie diet, but taking sea vegetable derived DHA is a great option! Oprah has sucked your supply dry and replacing it will help your brain state as well as nourish Baby Oprah.
Best of health to you all! Thank you for the listening pleasure, you make me laugh by myself out loud.
When I first heard you and Andy’s decision on the “no mustaches” rule on another episode, I thought you were being a bit over-protective. After hearing your discussion today, I thought I’d learn more, and I think you may have changed my mind.
OK. So reason one is that girls are in fact more likely to be sexually abused. Reason two, men are perpetrators of this 94% of the time against girls and 86% of the time against boys. Finally, the abuser knows the family 90% of the time. (Source: http://www.ptsd.va.gov/public/types/violence/child-sexual-abuse.asp)
So I’m kind of freaked out by all that. I know it will offend some people if we tell them we don’t trust them to be alone with our child, but what’s more important? Protecting your child or protecting their feelings?
I love your podcast! Actually, I love all of your podcasts!
I’m a first time mom due on May 28 with my little guy, and I just wanted to chime in with my good, bad, funny. I decided to go with a theme- pregnancy dreams. The good is that I have had LOTS of…um… sexy dreams. The bad was actually pretty terrible. I had the dream when I was maybe 12 weeks or so and was waiting for the results from the Harmony test (for genetic abnormalities). In the dream I learned that there was going to be a devastating meteorite impact about 8 hours away from where we live. The meteorite was not going to instantly kill us, but it was going to eventually cause mass extinction due to crop failure and starvation. Everyone was asking me if I was going to continue with the pregnancy only to watch the baby starve to death in the coming months. I could only say that if there was any chance that the baby would survive I had to try. I think this was about me struggling with the possibility of getting bad news from the Harmony test and how we would deal with that. It seemed so real that I woke up in a panic and asked my husband if it was really happening. Yuck. The funny involved me having twin boys (In actuality I’m having a singleton). I named them Pink and David, but David’s nickname was Stink. So I had twin boys named Pink and Stink.
I’ve heard Elizabeth and Andy mention the “no strange men” rule several times, and I feel really compelled to chime in. I was molested as a small child (ages 3-4) by a 13 y/o GIRL who was a family friend’s child, and a frequent babysitter of mine. She would make me touch her genitals, kiss her, etc. It went on for months, before I realized that it was weird and alerted my parents.
My point is: your child can be sexually or otherwise abused by anyone in your life. Until your child is old enough to communicate abuse to you, I understand being incredibly protective of who she sees. However, after age 4-5, start dialoging with your child about what good and bad touching is, etc. My parents were very vocal with us that if ANYONE (and yes, they did specify even if it was an uncle, grandpa, etc) did anything to us that made us feel uncomfortable, we should tell our parents. You can combat predators by knowing their tricks, and teaching your kids not to fall for them.
Love you guys, love all the pods. You’re the best!
p.s. if you stop posting Baby O pics at any point, I will cry. Please don’t do that to us!
We are super unprotective parents and that is the one safety rule we have, no kids alone with any man. Not even our brothers or best friends. You can fix a broken arm, it’s a lot harder to fix a molested child.
Hi Elizabeth and Andy!! Loved the last episode. I just wanted to leave a quick comment on the subject of shopping online after having a baby. Since you guys live in LA and were talking about Amazon shopping, I was wondering if you had heard about Amazon Fresh yet? I have a friend in LA that lives by it! If you haven’t checked it out yet, you should!! After hearing Andy talk about how he was having issues even making it to the store to get something quick for Meg, I thought of this service. It might be great for you guys.
https://fresh.amazon.com/
Hope it helps! I know I would use it if I could. 🙂
P.S. - I’m emailing you a collection of crockpot recipes that my family loves. There’s some good stuff in there for you and Andy and most of them last my family (of 3) at least 3 days!
Elizabeth & Andy
In response to eating like shit and not finding time to make anything…
I have a 14 month old daughter. She was 10lbs at birth, and I had a terrible delivery (forceps, episiotomy, retained placenta, haemorrhage - there’s more but it gets a little graphic). I stopped eating d/t an infection brewing down below where my stitches were and was therefore put on antibiotics and daily visits from a home nurse (imagine the worst, but worse than that - and that was me). I lost 56lbs too quickly and lost my milk supply, but luckily with pumping & perseverance got it back. Anyway, my husband figured out the most amazing and delicious meal replacements. SMOOTHIES!!!!
It is the only thing I would drink/eat for weeks. And we made every kind of smoothie possible. I highly recommend invested in a great blender (we use the Ninja, and its friggin awesome!). You can basically throw whatever in there and blend it up (well, almost everything). You can do a great breakfast smoothie to start the day off right, avocado, banana, almond/coconut milk, a handful of berries, a little bit of water and off you go. I really think you should give it a try!
Great podcasts, I often LOL while I am in the car or at home while cooking or cleaning. Thanks for your honesty.
KT
Hey guys!!! As a mother of an almost 2 year old I really wanted to just chime in (I know it’s late but this is an important topic to me, so I don’t care LOL) about the whole discussion of boys and boy behaviours and the like.
1. Being that you are parents to a little girl, of course you are going to think of girls first and most, because that is what most directly affects you.
2. I have to say that I disagree that there are any behaviours that are inherently “boy” or “girl”. Given that gender is literally only defined by the reproductive system you are born with, the only things that are inherently “boy” are things like producing semen, and inherently “girl” would be having a period. Those inherent things are literally only the things that are related to the reproductive system because it is purely because of the difference in the reproductive system that we even had the word gender in the first place.
3. I really really really wish Andy had used different wording then “I wouldn’t want her to turn him into a big pussy” (Please excuse me here, as I put quotations but I am indeed just paraphrasing.) I believe I understand his basic point he was trying to make, which my interpretation of his point was more along the lines of, “I hope she doesn’t make him a pushover” I wish he had said that instead. There is a BIG difference between saying don’t turn him into a pussy, and don’t turn him into a pushover. The word pushover is not gender specific at all, and is not degrading any gender, while the word pussy is very literally referencing women and putting them in an inferior light. I mean come on, people use the world pussy as a slang for vagina…so it’s very much a word about women. So I agree with what I believe Andy’s basic point was, and I hope in future he would be willing to explore different wording?
And 4. I know how much you guys love documentaries, so I have one all about how men are raised in society that I thought you might enjoy watching and I think everyone can benefit from. It’s called “The Mask We Live In”. Please excuse me if you’ve already heard of this, and have mentioned it on podcasts perhaps, because I’m still catching up.
Sorry for rambling and thank you for taking the time to read this!
All the best!
I meant to say mother of an almost 2 year old boy** whoopsies!