Planta Gratis!
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Totally Married Podcast
Episode 177
Want some free plants or some planta gratis? Elizabeth and Andy discuss one of the many reasons why they adore their landlord before giving plenty of super unqualified advice to listener questions about finding ways to cope with anger issues, how to handle a toxic long term friendship, how to meet other lesbians in a small southern town, whether or not to switch majors in college to something you’re passionate about (film, in this case) or stay the course to please your family, finding a way to let your coworkers know you are reading their mouths because of hearing issues, not because they have food stuck in their teeth, and lastly, how to handle friends who are still stuck in party mode when you are heading towards happy grown-ups-ville? Enjoy!
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I’m going through the same dilemma with my friends and the whole “growing-up” issue. I recently went through some medical issues and couldn’t/had no desire to drink and I was constantly exhausted which kept me home pretty much all the time. During that time I would reach out to friends to keep in touch and would get minimal or no reply if I wasn’t asking them to meet me for a drink. I even got the response “LAAAAAAAAAAAME” after responding that I wasn’t feeling well and I would be staying in for the night. It was easy to tell who really cherished my friendship, party girl or not, and made it easy to let go of the people who clearly didn’t give a shit. Unfortunately it’s just a part of life that happens to some sooner than others. Be proud of the person you’re becoming, it’s much more respectable than being that girl drunk dialing your ex or walking out of the bar/club carrying your heels.
“Keep your heels, head and standards high”
To the writer inner about the lesbian long distance love interest
I don’t think age is the underlying problem or that you guys live so far apart. The main issue is that she’s about to go to college and a lot changes during that time frame. Younger girl is about to go through a huge growing experience in college and she could change tremendously, and will also be around people her age that she might be attracted to. JS, a lot can happen and a lot can change.
If you aren’t having any luck finding a lady in your area though I used OKC (as a bi woman) for awhile and went on handful of dates with some nice women.
Good luck!
The one place age could be a problem is if they start sexting pics. If the online thing progresses to this point, the older recipient might want to took into the child pornography laws, because pics of a 17 year old, even if sent by her, willingly, could fall into the category.
as an aged lesbian, wait until you go to college. you will be around other lesbian gay bi queer people like yourself and aged. right now you are feeling alone and trust me you are not alone.
the above commenter is correct, long distance is too much for the first time. you can still be platonic.
For the writer-inner with the bad friend issue: As it sounds like you have no real desire to continue any meaningful sort of friendship with this person, but do care about her in general, I would suggest that you have an honest discussion with her about what she is doing wrong in the friendship department. The way I see it, you have nothing to lose and may be doing her a big favor. I have experienced this from both sides- I was taken aside by a really good friend in high school when I was sort of going off the friendship rails- she pointed out all of the ways I was being a bad friend, and while it was really painful at the time I think it has made me a much better friend in the long run (we are still close almost 20 years later). In turn I had a tough discussion with a great friend when she began to feed off negativity- this discussion made our friendship a little rocky for a few months, but over the course of a year or so she totally changed her outlook (I don’t think this was all my doing, but I do think our talk helped) and we are still great friends too. You said that she has no other friends (from what you describe it’s not hard to see why) - maybe if you tell her what is bothering you about her friendship style she will be able to use that to make better friends in the future.
Please please please please please have the landlord on the show
So I am going to comment on the being angry for so long topic. I was an asshole for a good part of six years to EVERYONE. And when they would he call me on it I would say that my work made me this way and I spend more time at work. I hated my job and even the people at work were all assholes and miserable so I was just surrounded by so many assholes all the time and miserable people that it definitely didn’t help when I tried to say okay let me better myself. It got to the point where nobody would call me nobody would want to hang out because it was just so angry all the time. Also I had a poor quality of life because I was working six days a week 12 hour days. I even can relate because when other people would walk around nobody wanted to talk to anybody because it was a fear of lashing out or being lashed out at. Maybe I’m totally off and talking out of my butt. Now fast forward six years later I got the courage to say you know what this place is toxic I have to change for ME to better myself. So while still being in the same field I got a new job less stress I’m happier I can sleep at night and I totally have a different life.When I meet new people I can still see sometimes I’m abrasive and I catch myself and I have to tone it down. So no therapy with the way I am still slowly changing myself is I got out of that environment and it was more of an internal thing where I said I want to better myself. Hope this helps. Laimewad for life
Thank you for your reply! I need to change internally. I wake up in the morning and the first thing I think is “goddammit.” I am hoping there is a new job on the horizon for me. That would most likely change my mood A LOT.
On the friends growing up issue, I completely understand where the writer inner is coming from. I recently had to lay it out to a friend who had admitted to me in the past that she an alcoholic and really wants to quit drinking. Well, she hasn’t stopped drinking yet. A few weeks ago I attended a brunch at her house with several other friends. She was drunk when I arrived at 10:30am and proceeded to continue drinking throughout the meal, getting sloppier and sloppier and making everyone very uncomfortable. This was the straw that broke the camel’s back for me. I realized that by being present for this, I was enabling her and being a bad friend. So I took her out for lunch later that week with the stipulation that we must both be completely sober. I then told her that I loved her very much and the best way for me to be a good friend to her was to henceforth only participate in sober activities together. She was surprisingly receptive to this and I think the honesty has made our friendship stronger. I feel like I have my friend back and she knows that I care about her. I hope in the future that she does stop drinking, but for right now I feel I am doing my part in her efforts to become sober. Growing up is hard…
To the writer-inner having anger issues: Your story really reminded me of my current situation. I get extremely frustrated and angry at my job. It’s an ok job but I am actually pursuing wedding photography as a career on the side. I feel so angry being at my current day job and knowing that I am just wasting my time here. The other day one of my coworkers left and I was so exciting for him. Personally, I know that this situation is adding so much stress to my life and makes me very depressed. I will be leaving soon!
I could be waaay off base but I wanted to throw this out there for the girl who feels angry all the time. Is there a chance you are taking hormonal birth control? I was on the pull (several kinds) for about four years and it effectively ruined me. I became an angry, sad, anti-social, depressed person. I was in a long term relationship and the fact that I also had no sex drive didn’t help matters either. By chance, I happened to read an article about little discussed, but common, medication side effects and low sex drive because of birth control was mentioned. This immediately switched on a lightbulb and I began researching birth control side effects and all of a sudden the last three years of my life started to make sense. I had alienated friends, not returning phone calls, making up excuses to not hang out, feeling miserable about myself, not much would make me happy. The straw that broke the camel’s back was me breaking down into a crying angry mess when I came home from work a little early and my boyfriend happened to be out running errands. I was so irrationally upset that he wasn’t home that I realized I couldn’t take anymore. I stopped taking the pill that day and haven’t been on hormonal birth control since. In a few weeks my mood had totally changed and a month or two later my sex drive was back. I pretty much feel like I lost about three years of my life in my early 20’s but I am so glad I figured out what was wrong with me.
Again, I could be completely and totally wrong about the writer inner’s situation, but I couldn’t not throw this out there in the off chance it might turn on someone else’s lightbulb.
Yes I do! I have wondered if birth control plays a role. It would make sense because this all started happening in college when I started taking it. I also hardly have a sex drive. Hmmm not sure what to do about this.
I went through a period of near constant anger/grouchiness in my early 20s. What it came down to was that I was in a relationship that was not right and it was making me really unhappy. I was a b—h at work, I was crabby with everyone, and I would avoid/get annoyed at simple things like the checkout person at the grocery store or basically anyone out in public who I had to interact with.
I remember after I finally broke up with the boyfriend, being at the gym working out and actually looking around at other people, making eye contact, nodding hello, etc. (and not because I was trying to find a gym hookup, although there’d have been nothing wrong with that!) It was an eye-opening experience, realizing that whoa, this is how happy people act. They’re nice and friendly and not awful. Makes sense!
A few months later, I met my now-husband and one day my downstairs neighbor (who I had probably not spoken to the entire time I lived in the apartment complex) stopped my husband on his way up to my place and said, “I don’t know what you did, but Sarah is so much happier and nicer now, so thank you.” Apparently everyone else (even people I didn’t know) could feel my unhappy energy before.
Now there are times when I find myself dropping into that same anti-social behavior (avoiding eye contact in public, etc.) and it’s a very clear indicator for me that I may be headed towards an unhappiness spiral. Sometimes I just keep aware of it and wait it out or sometimes I make a conscious effort to address the underlying problem and fix it. Either way, I am glad I have this kind of happiness trigger to know when deep down, things are not okay with me.
Enough about me! To the writer-inner: I hope you find your underlying issue (or whatever it is) soon. I think good things are on the horizon for you, mostly because you are very self-aware and want to change your behavior/attitude. Good luck and keep us posted.
Elizabeth, I wonder if the problem is not that you’re approaching people when you sense wrongdoing, but the *way* you’re going about it? It sounds like when you actually went up to those people with the dog and talked to them about it, you had a pretty positive conversation, as opposed to when you yelled at them from across the street or whatever. I actually think it’s really great that you speak up when you see people mistreating kids or animals who can’t defend themselves. Just, you might have better results if you approach people more gently. It’s not that everyone deserves the benefit of the doubt, but you deserve to be heard, and they’re more likely to hear you if you treat them that way.
Regarding the first writer about her mom’s friend’s daughter, she’s seems like she’s been socially awkward and somewhat self centered since she was a child. I wonder if she doesn’t recognize how she is viewed by others and simply misses picking up on the acceptable social cues. I’ve known a few people in my life who are similar and get frustrated and depressed when they are aware they’re being faded out of someone’s life and can’t understand the reason why. No one really tells them the reason and when they finally find out through another source they get even more upset they weren’t given a chance to fix it.
What is a good way to help someone who isn’t intentionally being toxic without becoming the complete support system to help ?
Hiya,
Good advice to the young lesbian woman. I agree that the age difference is a problem here.
As a lesbian who only realized this in my early 20’s, I definitely felt quite a bit younger than I really was during that time. It feels for a while like you’re an adolescent even when you’re much older, since you’re awkwardly stumbling through the same shit most other people did when they were in junior high or whatever. I wonder if that might be part of what’s going on here with the feelings for the younger girl? Anyway, yeah, I agree that that age difference is too large and the other girl is too young.
I realize it’s easier said than done, but can the writer-inner consider moving to a larger city? It’s something LGBT people have done for ages and for good reason- community is important. There are tons of other people like you out there, writer-inner! Go find them if you can!
Sometimes I feel irrationally angry like the LW, and even though my rational mind knows I’m being angry for no reason, I can’t change course. The only thing that helps my random bouts of angriness and isolation from others is running. Not even other kinds of exercise. Personally, I dislike working out and would skip it, but running is a wonder drug that completely evaporates my random, “I hate everyone” feelings.
A bit cliché, but for good reason. Try running.
Regarding last week’s extrovert v. introvert discussion. http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/6177854
Happy thanksgiving laime family! I just listened to this episode. You guys made me laugh throughout my turkey day run. Just quickly I wanted to point out some Tinder inaccuracies. Andy, tinder is for all (straight, gay, bi, etc). Also, it is not purely a hookup app like grinder is. I used to use it and went out on some very PG to PG-13 dates with nice normal people. And for the woman seeking a woman in a small town, I have a friend who met her last two girlfriends on tinder. I’m not purely advocating that as an option but since it tends to come up from time to time I thought I’d clarify a bit for you married types ;).
Hey to the hard of hearing Laimewed! I’m a graduate student in speech language pathology at Gallaudet University, and it sounds like you could use a little aural rehabilitation!
First, Elizabeth and Andy did a great job of focusing on the main issue here: advocating for yourself and your communication needs. However, I might add that if you’re relying on lipreading as much as you say, you might look into taking a class in speechreading from a local audiology clinic to pick up a few tricks. You coud be using more holistic cues rather than “mouthwatching” so much.
Also, dude, get a hearing aid! They’re awesome these days, with features like directionality (so that you can focus on one speaker in a noisy situation like your office), and amplification will help preserve your residual hearing. Your hearing coworkers need a little education… My deaf friends say that they prefer to wear their hearing aids so that there is a physical reminder to look at them when they talk, speak at a slower rate, and be willing to repeat themselves. Hearing loss (or Deaf gain, as we say here at Gallaudet) is complicated, because you don’t know what you are missing!
Good luck!